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  • in reply to: Top Materials And Pantasote #467822

    Pantasote is a rubberized fabric from what I can tell.My 1915 Pierce Arrow C-3 Five Passenger Touring Car still has the original Pantasote top.It is a lined top with a fabric liner similar to that on older Volkswagen or Mercedes Benz lined tops.A number of car makers in those days used Pantasote for their tops.

    in reply to: Parking brake ratchet 1929 143 5-Pass. Dual CowlTouring #467683

    If these parts are to be reproduced I would be interested in getting a spare set for my 1929 Series 133 Roadster.Any idea as to cost?

    in reply to: 1915-1918 Pierce-Arrow hood evolution information needed #425054

    The 38 hood is unique to the 38 as is the radiator.What year model is your car? The 38 has one size of radiator and hood,the 48 is another size and the 66 is even another size after that.They will not interchange.They are big,bigger and biggest.What is your email and I could send you some pictures.I am in the PAS Roster

    in reply to: 1915-1918 Pierce-Arrow 48 radiator shell wanted #425053

    What series is your Pierce Arrow 48?

     

    in reply to: 1915-1918 Pierce-Arrow hood evolution information needed #425025

    The 48 hood is a little longer.The louvered side panels were an option for cars being used in more rugged conditions.

    in reply to: 1915-1918 Pierce-Arrow 48 radiator shell wanted #425024

    The Pierce Arrows of 1915-1918 do not have a removable shell as this did not come in until the Series 31-51 cars of 1919-1920.The radiator assembly on the earlier cars was one piece and this will differ between the series of car.The radiator on the Series 2 and Series 3 cars was unique and the radiators used on the Series 4 and Series 5 cars were unique.The radiators on the Series 2 and Series 3 cars have a crimped soldered seam on the front edge typical of the pre-1916 Pierce Arrow radiators and the Series 4 and later have a smooth edge.

    in reply to: front floor mats, 1929-30, have cost and a vendor #411932

    It looks like these are going to be beautiful mats.The insert in the photos looks very nice.

    in reply to: Auction #411688

    From my experiences at swap meets,I think there are more brass lights and other such items out there than cars to put them on.The 1913 Pierce Arrow project appeared to have a quite good bid considering the work and cost involved to build it back into a complete car.When I view some of results at the Arizona auctions I believe the hobby is just fine but I do believe people tend to shy away from projects.

    in reply to: inside of back up light on 1929 #411687

    The Type A taillamp was used through 1930.

    in reply to: A FEW PARTS HAVE DISAPPEARED. HELP!! #411571

    The photos I have seen of this 1929 Pierce Arrow 133 Phaeton show it to have the headlamp and auxiliary headlamp design as those on my 133 Roadster which is close to the serial number of the Phaeton.The headlamps have the McKeelite lenses and the smaller lamps use a smaller version of this lens.The prisms are vertical.The lighting design was changed late in the 1929 run to double dipping headlights using the Twolight lens and I believe a matching auxiliary light lens.

    in reply to: 1932 VA Series 54 Convertible Sedan for sale #411404

    It is the fender headlights on a Pierce Arrow that caused me to be fascinated by Pierce Arrow cars when I was still a child.It is the same thing with the Packard radiator.

    in reply to: 1932 VA Series 54 Convertible Sedan for sale #411402

    The bracket mounted headlamps were a requirement I believe in certain locales where the fender lamps were illegal.Also some buyers may have chosen the bracket lights to downplay the fact that they owned a Pierce Arrow sort of like in later years where people would buy a Bentley instead of a Rolls Royce so as to keep a lower profile.

    in reply to: front floor mats, 1929-30, have cost and a vendor #411334

    Check the 1929 133-143 parts book but as I recall there was only one part number for the front mat for those cars.I will say the open four and seven passenger cars probably had a rubber mat on the tonneau floor.Closed cars would have had carpet in the rear.

    in reply to: Tracing my cars owner ship #411215

    Does anyone know if the 1914-1915-1916 Minnesota Auto registrations are accessible online?

    in reply to: Tracing my cars owner ship #411212

    Every situation to tracing a car’s history is different.If one can,tracing back through the previous owners starting with the party from whom one purchased the car.To give an example: With my 1930 Packard 745 I did just that and got some information from the person from whom the collector who had my car had purchased the Packard.This person however a short time later passed away but out of all of this I got the name of the first purchaser but it is just an initial and a last name.My car was purchased at the Brooklyn NY Packard store on9/20/30 and his last name was on one of the old keys with the car.I was told he was a golf pro and even contacting a golf person from that time who was still around did not provide any information.I am at a bit of a dead end unless I make trip and try to search libraries.in the course of all of this I was able to talk with another collector who had seen the Packard at a show in Michigan over 60 years ago and took photos.He sent me copies.I am citing this to show every case is different.If one could find a book of New York auto registrations for say 1930 it would take long time to go through them and your eyes would be very tired.If you have some names it is amazing what you can find on the Web.You have to though make this search fun.It is alot like searching down one’s family and there are alot of good resources for such searches.

    in reply to: Tracing my cars owner ship #411204

    I was very lucky with my 1915 C-3 which is an extremely original car as in papers received with my car was the original owner’s California certificate of registration for the year 1919.They had a second home in Pasadena and my car was kept there.From there I traced the name to Beverly Hills and found myself talking on the phone with his nephew who was 7 years old in 1914-1915 and told me quite a bit of history.My very low mileage 1929 Roadster came from Colorado and with the history I had found title documents at the Ouray County court house as Colorado registrations are kept by the counties.If nothing else I feel a good place to start is to ask the person from whom you bought the car get a name of their seller trying go back as far as you can.Some sate libraries have old registration books which one can peruse either online or in person but this will give your eyes a workout.New Mexico has vehicle records from 1912 through 1934 and these are at the State Library in Santa Fe.I have catalogued virtually all of the Pierce Arrows ever registered in New Mexico plus other interesting cars.

    in reply to: Clay Green passing…. #411120

    It is though a good discussion and a chance to discuss the nuances of the pre-1921 Pierce Arrows.

    in reply to: Clay Green passing…. #411118

    I have heard of a C-3 being taken to 70 miles per hour and I thought scary with two wheel brakes.A late friend with a 1927 Buick Master Six tangled with RHD Pierce Arrows on a tour and they left him in the dust.Where I live one needs to be very careful because we have lots of deer.These guys get out in the street.

    in reply to: Clay Green passing…. #411114

    That is a good ratio and it seems to be about the same for the Series 3 C-3 of 1914-1915.About 1600 or so were were built from spring of 1914 to about late fall of 1915.Around 385 were shipped to Russia and perhaps one of those cars survives today but in all about 10 are known to survive worldwide with perhaps two chassis.Eight of the known C-3’s are in North America and all are most cherished by their owners.In Series 3 more 48 B-3’s have survived and only 3 66 A-3’s are known to have survived.No Series 2 66’s are known to exist.We really have to be thankful for the people who came before us who saved these cars.

    in reply to: Clay Green passing…. #411110

    I am an HCCA member and have a pre-1916 Pierce Arrow which is in beautiful original condition.The car runs just great on the open road and will keep up with later cars and probably exceed some in performance.I though live in an area where there is no PAS region and I do not have a trailer.To take a 105 year old car with right hand drive and no turn signals on an interstate is asking for a disaster.Even with my 1929 Pierce Arrow Roadster it still would be risky.There are just so many crazy drivers out there.It seems like the few times that an unrestored Pierce Arrow surfaces it is one from the 1930’s but then these cars were in use in a much later time and did not caught up in scrap drives from the 1920’s to WW2.I think alot of RHD Pierce Arrows got broken up in the latter 1920’s and 1930’s.Most of the survivors are the cars from the 1916 Series 4 through the Series 31-51 of 1919-1920.Actually I have seen several discussions on the pre-1921 cars during the period of my being a member of the Pierce Arrow Society.I remember the technical bulletins that arose out of panel discussions at the National Meets.

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